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Torqued crimps
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Just cruising the web and I found this on youtube. New to me, maybe not to you. You can crimp your cases using a torque bar, just like the click stop torque wrench you would use for .....uh....other stuff. Anyway you can get one here, for about $94US. After looking at the video, I'd think you could make one (if you have a torque wrench) by fixing a 1/2" socket to the Lee Press at the same pivot point as the handle, and insert the wrench. Seems simpler to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

I never seen that either, clicking on the 2nd link where it shows the tool, it seems like the product description used the word "Consistent Crimp" just one to many times for me. Very Happy Besides I think all the dies I have do a good job of "Consistent Crimping" Very Happy

I'll save my money and buy more powder and boolits. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

I have a very (in its day) expensive [click stop] Bonney torque wrench. If I thought that that would do a better job I might try it, but I see a very expensive reloading tool that has no use at my loading bench.

All my cases are trimmed to within +/-.002 of each other, rifle and handgun, and I figure that will get me a consistant crimp every time. I, also, have a calibrated elbow.

No thank you......

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Interesting gadget !!!

I can see this being useful/helpful in setting a crimp die up during load development but don't see the need to always use it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

For the reloader who has everything!

I just yank till the case buckles, mentally note the force and back off half an ooomph.

"just like the click stop torque wrench you would use for .....uh....other stuff"

What, can't say TORQUEYER NUTS WITH...Suz?

Well look who just got all danty and stuff....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Shocked .....WHO HID MY LADDER!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Looks like it's "curtains" for you....

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

.....and doilies and potpouri and and and.....

I'll have the best dressed casket in camp!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Thanks but I'll keep using the Lee Factory Crimp Die, works great.

stovepipe, your ladder is in the corner over there by the beer. It was in my way when I came in so I just moved it over.. By the way those rungs are getting worn and in bad shape maybe you should think about a new ladder. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

There it is! Ol rickity....no wonder I missed it, beer was in the way.

Yeh, we needs an upgrade fer sure. And a taller one too...she got a longer whip me thinks...CRRACK! EEEYIKES!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Haha Haha Haha Haha Haha Haha Haha Haha

You crack me up Stovey...but at least it's you on the receiving end of that damn lash...rather than me fer once.

I like the concept Suz...but I think that it is an answer looking for a non-existent problem. Having said that, I think the Bench Rest crowd will make good use of it...them guys are always looking for an edge, and one of the things they seek is total consistency.

Thanks for the link...it was certainly interesting mate.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Well as much discussion that goes on around here about the technicalities of ballistics, I'd think someone would be interested. Goes to show ya who's serious and who needs a woopin.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

HAHA Stoveys in the doghouse.... Very Happy Ya got the top of that ladder all pimped out stovey and yeah yah need a new ladder, Suz has longer stout switches now that reach up to the top of your ladder. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

I'm interested in ballistics!....... and in gettin' outta camp with my back-sides unshredded!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Torqued crimps Reply with quote

Suz...Do you reload any handgun ammunition? And...Have you ever used a "click stop" torque wrench?

As to the handgun ammunition and the crimping there of. If the cases are trimmed to the same length and you operate the press lever equally the crimp will be uniform on all rounds. Rifle isn't that different. I get scoffed at because I trim straight wall cases (even .45 ACP. My Colt 1911 seems to prefer .90" cases).

As to the "click stop" torque wrench. It, also, is subject to the differences in how fast [or slow] you operate it. If you go too fast the set torque will rise.. With that in mind you still have to operate it evenly for all crimps.

If you are a practiced reloader and tend to use an even stroke, which I'm sure you are and do, then what use do you have for an expensive toy other then to show off the the beginner who doesn't know any better.

I'm not going up any ladder. I'm going to stand my ground....She's going to kill me...I just know.

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