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A varmint gun for Christmas
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

I have a dilemma. I really like the .204, .223, and the .22-250. I have recently purchased the .22-250. I have also just received a Christmas bonus. The choice is between the .204 and .223. I have read comparisons, and if bullets are kept the same, the .204 seems to have the edge. Not ever owning either, I am looking for pros and cons of either.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

Got them both a couple of guns each. You can't go wrong with the .223, ammo is plentiful, and comes in numerous options. .204 is a little harder to find some places, but it is a hell of a shooter!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

Buy a Savage in 223, then get an extra barrel and bolt head in 204.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

An Encore with both barrels?? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

220 Swift beats them all.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

FALPhil - Can barrels be changed on the Savage Model 12, by the owner? How is it done, and what is the cost of the parts vs an new gun?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

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FALPhil - Can barrels be changed on the Savage Model 12, by the owner? How is it done, and what is the cost of the parts vs an new gun?

You need a couple of tools to be able to do this. I use the Wheeler action wrench (also works on Remington 700s), a barrel nut wrench from Sharp Shooters Supply, and headspace gages for your chosen cartridge.

Now, you can perform the operation without a bench vise, but a bench vise makes it a little easier.

You remove the stock and bolt and clamp the action wrench on the forward part of the receiver.

Then you clamp the action wrench into the bench vise.

Next, you slide barrel nut wrench over the barrel and onto the barrel nut and loosen the barrel nut.

When it is at the top of the barrel threads, you grab the barrel with both hands and unscrew it.

Then you unscrew and remove the barrel nut. You have to be sure I catch the recoil lug between the barrel nut and the receiver.

You screw the barrel nut on to the new barrel.

Next, you put the recoil lug on the barrel shank and screw the new barrel about half way into the receiver.

You take the bolt (assuming you have change the bolt head out (I will cover that below), put it in the action, insert the GO gage like it was ammo, and run it up into the barrel.

Then, you screw the barrel down tight on the GO gage, lining up the recoil lug (there is a dimple to make it easy).

Now you have the basic barrel position, so you back out the bolt and retrieve the GO gage. I like to give the barrel another 1/4 turn, because on my rifle, it translates into about 0.2 moa tighter groups. Run the barrel nut all the way down to the receiver, and tighten it with the barrel nut wrench.

Put the stock back on and check with the NO GO gage.

It took me 3x longer to type this up than it does to perform the operation. If you can change a tire, you can do this. It is actually easier to do this than to change a tire.

To swap out the bolt head:

1. Remove the striker assembly (allen wrench or screwdriver, depending on model)

2. Drift out the bolt head retaining pin

3. Swap out bolt heads (I recommend a complete bolt head with extractor and ejector, otherwise, you must swap out those parts too.)

4. Insert the bolt head retaining pin.

5. Install the striker assembly.

You can do both operations in well under 10 minutes. I have been getting my barrels from ER Shaw for $168 delivered. They are button rifled, and when I fire lap them, they seem to be as accurate as the Shilen barrels that cost $75 more. Bolt heads can be obtained from Sharp Shooters Supplyor Midway. SSS charges $55, but if you order the parts individually from Midway, its a little cheaper. So, for less than $225 plus tools, you can turn your Savage into a switch barrel rifle. The more barrels you have, the better you amortize your tool costs.

In my 110 action, I can shoot 25-06, 270 Win, 30-06, 7mm Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag, and 338 Win Mag. I could do others, but I see no point. Next, I am going to find a Model 10 short action and get barrels for 308 Win, 260 Rem, 22-250 and 7mm-08. I use Weaver rings so I can swap out scopes, too.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

I bought a Ruger M77 MKII *Target* in .204 last summer. Put a versapod bi-pod on it with a Bushnell Elite 3200 4-12x40 for optics. What a sweet shooter. Here I am totally unfamiliar with the gun and after a dozen shots to get it sighted, head out to gopher shoot. Exploding gophers out at 200 to 250 yrds was childs play. And explode is no exageration using the Hornady 32 grain Vmax polymer tip bullets at 4225 f/sec. Very Happy
You won't regret getting one if you do.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

.223 Remington and .204 Ruger should use the same bolt head, just need to switch the barrel.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

I have a model Savage 12FV in 204 Ruger that I am trying to trade for a 22-250. However, if I can't find a trade, I may buy another barrel and bolt and try the barrel swap. The thing I don't like about swapping between the 204 and the 22-250 is the magazine well. The model 12 has a fixed inline magazine well built into the stock. The 204 and 22-250 cases are considerably different. They are different enough that the 204 magazine will not hold the 22-250. So, if I change out the barrel and bolt head to 22-250, I will be stuck with a single shot bolt action gun. A single shot is fine for bench work but does not do as well when hunting.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

Back to your question. You have the better of the two .22 caliber firearms. Get the .204 and have no regrets. It is a great cartridge. I don't have one yet, but it is on its way.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

Buy an AR in 204. Then buy another complete Upper reciever with a 223 bull barrel. You will have both and they switch out with the pull of 2 pins. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: A varmint gun for Christmas Reply with quote

I love my .204! Very Happy After shooting a 223 then a 204, it was a no-brainer for me.

Also, you could just get another 22-250, so if you are out shooting p-dogs you could let the one cool while using the other and only have to bring one type of cartridges.
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